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| [12:11 PM PT] Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse.com:8002: if they are that bad, why are we using dotnet
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| [12:11 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: bc they own mono and killed i
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| [12:11 PM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: Because that is where we started
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| [12:11 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: beats me, but someone made the decision in the last century almost
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| [12:11 PM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: They bought Mono and killed it, as expected
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| [12:12 PM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Find an alternative that offers the same cross platform capability out the box along with the now critical features for how the entire OpenSim architecture works internally
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| [12:12 PM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: We just didn't move before they killed it, and are stuck with their leavings
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| [12:12 PM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: But wait there is an option, let's rewrite it in Java, that's cross platform right xD
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| [12:12 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: they just dropped an incremental update to dotnet6 today
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| [12:12 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: i was thinking cobol or pl/i
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| [12:12 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: hmm ada?
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| [12:13 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: why not FORTRAN?
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| [12:13 PM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: Fortran 2 at least
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| [12:13 PM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: on Vaxen, too
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| [12:13 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: :-)
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| [12:13 PM PT] Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse.com:8002: well that would end one of our dody reliances
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| [12:13 PM PT] Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse.com:8002: dodgy
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| [12:13 PM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: All of those things cost money to do, Cliff
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| [12:13 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: hmm opensim in fortran on a cray xmp
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| [12:13 PM PT] Andrew Hellershanks: I used to do a bit of programming in WATFIVS.
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| [12:14 PM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: and don't happen quickly
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| [12:14 PM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: If you rid yourself of all dependencies you just re-invent the wheel and make it much harder to keep everything in working order. The reason these frameworks and runtimes exist is to make it simpler to get things out the door
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| [12:14 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: ( no i would not pay the cray power bill)
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| [12:14 PM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: Vax ORTRAN at least had strings
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| [12:14 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: This should teach them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQ3sajIdaM
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| [12:14 PM PT] Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse.com:8002: that sounds like a call for an early start
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| [12:14 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: IBM 1401 runs Fortran 2
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| [12:15 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: on that.. minor changes on code the "cosmetics" class of changes during last week
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| [12:16 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: hmm did add a null check on part.inventory that seems was been triggerrd
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| [12:16 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: with bad consequences for the region ;)
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| [12:16 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: did you push that to bitbucket?
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| [12:16 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: checking
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| [12:17 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: now you dud :-)
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| [12:18 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: did
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| [12:18 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: fun,, did but dont see it there
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| [12:18 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: ohh need to select the branch to see it.. odd
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| [12:18 PM PT] Joe Magarac: What is the status of Mono? It's open source, so it can't just go away all at once.
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| [12:18 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: ms killed it.. dead end
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| [12:18 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: yep
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| [12:18 PM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: You can ask on their discord how it is doing, the sentiment is grim
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| [12:19 PM PT] Orbert.Tatham @hg.zetaworlds.com: MS had staff maintaining it - they moved to dotnet
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| [12:19 PM PT] Vincent.Sylvester @hg.zetaworlds.com: MS killed it under their noses basically
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| [12:19 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: they used it to make dotnet doe linux etc
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| [12:19 PM PT] Ubit Umarov: then killed it
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| [12:19 PM PT] Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse.com:8002: hi Arielle
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| [12:19 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Hi Arielle
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| [12:19 PM PT] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Arielle.
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| [12:19 PM PT] Lyr Lobo: Hello Arielle!
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| [12:20 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Joe, I compiled and ran your UI code on macOS
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| [12:20 PM PT] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: not a hitch
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| [12:20 PM PT] Arielle Popstar: hiyas
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| [12:20 PM PT] Arielle Popstar: this region seems a mess
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| [12:21 PM PT] Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse.com:8002: seems ok to me? | | [12:21 PM PT] Clifford.Hanger @alternatemetaverse.com:8002: seems ok to me? |
| [12:21 PM PT] Arielle Popstar: maybe the yengine thing? | | [12:21 PM PT] Arielle Popstar: maybe the yengine thing? |