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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Page créée avec « &amp;lt;!-- [11:02] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Hi JayR &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:02] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: Hi Andrew and George &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:02] George Equus: Hi everyo... »&lt;/p&gt;
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[11:02] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Hi JayR&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:02] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: Hi Andrew and George&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:02] George Equus: Hi everyone&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:02] Andrew Hellershanks: um... ok. This is different.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:03] Unknown.UserUPUUI @thekaz.ddns.net:8002: boy this was confusing / getting here today :_))))&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:03] George Equus: Bit tricky getting to meeting...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:03] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Things come and go so fast here, Toto&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:03] Andrew Hellershanks: yeah. So much for a simpler, low lag meeting location.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:04] George Equus: Very dark here today&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:04] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: I turned on Midday&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:04] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: I do like this region one of the first HG jumps I made in OS&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:04] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: Nostalgic&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:04] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: Nice region, but ummm log lag they name is NOT lbsa&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:04] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: *low&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:05] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: True&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:05] Andrew Hellershanks nods to Bill&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:05] George Equus: My windlight setting had changed, better now :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:06] Andrew Hellershanks: I don&amp;#039;t know where to find the windlight settings in Firestorm.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:07] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: you can either force midday&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:07] Andrew Hellershanks: Oh, nice! I just discovered that you can search the preferences dialog box. I found it. :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:07] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: or click the firestorm icon in your toolbar&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:07] George Equus: It&amp;#039;s in Quick prefs Andrew&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:07] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: use the world menu to turn light to midday&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:07] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: World&amp;gt;Sunposition&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:07] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: oops&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:07] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: I can&amp;#039;t type today&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:08] George Equus: toolbar button maybe not enabled?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:08] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: ctrl+shift+y sets the viewer to midday&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:08] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: learnt that from Miney lol&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:08] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: World&amp;gt;Sun Position&amp;gt;Midday is the easiest&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:08] Andrew Hellershanks: George, I don&amp;#039;t know where to find Quick Prefs. :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:09] Arielle Popstar: bottom right  hand  corener&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:09] Arielle Popstar: corner&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:09] Andrew Hellershanks: Oh, ok.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:09] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: Did not know how to do that Bill #AlwaysLearning&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:09] Arielle Popstar: (sigh) noobs :p&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:09] Andrew Hellershanks: The other quick way to get to Midday is via the keyboard shortcut (Alt-Y, IIRC)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:10] Simulator Version v0.5 shouts: Rev Paela OpenSim 4.0.1 Dev       (Unix/Mono)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:10] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: we are all noobs at some point Arielle :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:10] George Equus: Right click the toolbar buttons and then top menu item and enable Quick Prefs&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:10] Map Space Locator: DynamicTextureModule: Error preparing image using URL http://quickmap.osgrid.org/quickmap.php?resolution=8&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:10] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: 4.0.1 - wow&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:10] George Equus: Has the FS logo&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:11] Arielle Popstar: yes  true but  andrew  has  graduated  from  being  new  :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:11] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: Yeah this region runs some custom version, still think the meeting should run on a region running MASTER&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:11] Andrew Hellershanks: Arielle, mostly I have. :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:11] Arielle Popstar: heh  i know&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:12] Arielle Popstar: why  is this  lbsa  plaza ??&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:12] Andrew Hellershanks: Bill, the region should be run using the same version of Open Sim as is used for the main part of osgrid.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:12] George Equus: Lean Blond Swede  :))&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:12] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: Well that would be close enough to master Andrew&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:12] Arielle Popstar  looks  around for  one&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:12] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: is ABBA here?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:12] George Equus: Original founder of OSGrid&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:13] George Equus: Soon Gavin. will have virtial holo show apparently&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:13] Arielle Popstar: he pops  in  once  in a  while&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:13] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: hehe&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:14] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: hi kayaker&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:14] Arielle Popstar: too bad  you can  force teleport  certain people to here  Kayaker&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:14] Arielle Popstar: cant&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:15] Arielle Popstar: unless  we  collared  them....&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:16] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: This is the OpenSim Dev meeting?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:16] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Has the right people.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:16] Arielle Popstar: except  Sheera&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:16] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: This is a Virtual World Addicts Anonymous meeting ... so yeah same thing&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:16] Andrew Hellershanks: Kayaker, yes it is&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:16] Andrew Hellershanks: hehe&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:17] Arielle Popstar: kk  i am  in the right place either  way then&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:17] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Hi Ubit&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:17] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: Howdy Ubit&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:17] Andrew Hellershanks: Now that we a good complement of people have found there way here it is time to start the meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:17] Andrew Hellershanks: Hello, Ubit.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:17] Ubit Umarov: hi&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:17] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: Hi Ubit and Kayaker&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:18] Arielle Popstar: do we start  with the serenity  prayer?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:18] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Helo to you, person who&amp;#039;s name is (Loading...)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:18] Andrew Hellershanks: Let us hope this region gets back to its previous look for next meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:18] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: More like a sign that says, &amp;quot;Abandon all hope, ye who enter here&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:18] Andrew Hellershanks: If not, we may be looking for another place to meet that is low lag.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:19] Arielle Popstar: its  laggy?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:19] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: right now I&amp;#039;m praying the iOS 11 update does not brick my phone...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:19] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: the struggle is real Gavin&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:19] Arielle Popstar: 41 ms   ....cant  get  much better then that&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:21] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I got my server back up on OSGrid and did some testing of llCastray: I am a happy camper. It runs in 70ms or less and does not slow down in var regions. Tested ubODE in sizes up to 8x8. Tested Bullet&amp;#039;s new llCastRay only on a 1x1 and it has similar speed.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:21] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Both in OpenSim 0.9.1, the one downloaded from OSGrid.org&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:23] Andrew Hellershanks: Good to hear, Kayaker. I know you had been having issues with lLCastRay for some time.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:23] Andrew Hellershanks: There hasn&amp;#039;t been much in the way of changes to the OS code this past week. Just three small changes.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:25] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I&amp;#039;m having trouble compiling the new version, it might be the mono version I have: 4.2.1. Andrew gave me a 3.8.2 but I have not had time to try unpacking that yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:25] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Any other opinions about mono 4.2.1?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:25] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: Mono 5.2.215 works great&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:25] Map Space Locator: DynamicTextureModule: Error preparing image using URL http://quickmap.osgrid.org/quickmap.php?resolution=8&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:25] Andrew Hellershanks: Kayaker, minor corretion. I gave you 3.2.8&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:25] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: dyslexia of the fingers....&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:25] Andrew Hellershanks: np&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:26] Andrew Hellershanks: AFAICR, 4.2 was a version best avoided. It caused various issues when using it to run OS. I don&amp;#039;t remember the specifics.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:27] Ubit Umarov: hmm ? im not a osgrid greeter&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:27] Andrew Hellershanks: I don&amp;#039;t recall if 4.4 was considered safe. The 4.6 version should be ok. IIRC, at least one of the other core devs is using it.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:28] Ubit Umarov: why does this thing says im ?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:28] Ubit Umarov: whatever&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:28] Andrew Hellershanks: Ubit, it says you are Owner of Nothing&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:28] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: I know ubit is running his on 5.2&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:28] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I thought ubit was running on Windows .net?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:29] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: he also has a linux VM&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:29] Ubit Umarov: im running a test region on a Bill&amp;#039;s VM&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:30] Ubit Umarov: Mono JIT compiler version 5.2.0.215 (tarball Mon Aug 14 15:46:12 UTC 2017)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:30] Andrew Hellershanks: I don&amp;#039;t see a 5.2 branch of mono. I do notice a reference to 5.4 and 5.7&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:31] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: http://www.mono-project.com/download/&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:31] Ubit Umarov: hmm copyeight by Novell ?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:31] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: 5.2.0 Stable (5.2.0.215)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:31] Ubit Umarov: copyright..&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:32] Ubit Umarov: didn&amp;#039;t remember the novelll part&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:32] Andrew Hellershanks: Gavin, I&amp;#039;m looking at the source tree that I have on my machine.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:32] Andrew Hellershanks: Perhaps someone forgot to branch/tag the other 5.x versions.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:32] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Hmm, I ended up with mono 4.2.1 because that was the version that came up when I re-built my server a new copy of Ubuntu.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:33] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: they have some screwed up naming, may not be named 5.2&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:33] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: I think their developers are on some really good drugs&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:33] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: obviously not performance enhancing drugs @ Bill&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:36] Andrew Hellershanks: My distro has 5.2 on it. I can give it a try the next time I run my standalone copy of OS.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:37] Andrew Hellershanks: I finished some work I was doing for a client so I will be taking some time this week to work on updating the OSSL wiki pages, and to add more information to the 0.9 release notes page.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:38] Andrew Hellershanks: At least, that is the plan. :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:38] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: sounds good&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:39] Andrew Hellershanks: Any other OpenSim related questions/comments/bugs for today?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:40] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: I compiled a new macOS version of bullet with the latest changes, just gonna run it for 24 hours before submitting&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:40] Map Space Locator: DynamicTextureModule: Error preparing image using URL http://quickmap.osgrid.org/quickmap.php?resolution=8&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:40] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, ty, George.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:41] Unknown.UserUPUUI @thekaz.ddns.net:8002: I found a Speed Boat script the other day that works pretty well on both Bullet and ubODE&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:41] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I have been unable to HG out of OSGrid. The last time I was able to was before the switch to 0.9.1 anyone else had this problem?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:41] Arielle Popstar: heard  others  mention  but  not  had  issue  myself&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:41] Unknown.UserUPUUI @thekaz.ddns.net:8002: @ Kayaker / I have had no problems with my OSGrid avatar&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:42] George Equus: yw Andrew&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:42] Andrew Hellershanks: Kayaker, which grid(s) have you tried to reach? Is the problem only outbound?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:43] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I just HGed in here from Kitely. From OSGrid I get location not found for ANY HG address I type into the map.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:44] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Who here is logged into OSGrid directly?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:44] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: that being with a native OSG login Kayaker&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:44] Andrew Hellershanks: Kayaker, I am logged in to osgrid directly.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:44] Arielle Popstar: i am&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:45] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Try putting http://grid.kitely.com:8002/ in the map and see it it can find it. (but don&amp;#039;t TP away!)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:45] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: found it&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:46] Arielle Popstar: me  too&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:46] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Hmm, I got cant find errors. I&amp;#039;ll try again after the meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:46] Arielle Popstar: may  have  to clean  HG  links  on the  default  region&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:47] Andrew Hellershanks: Kayaker, I find a region called Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:47] Arielle Popstar: yes  unknown for me too&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:48] Andrew Hellershanks: I&amp;#039;ve had trouble TPing out of Kitely to a grid I was working on. I can TP out from some regions in that grid but not others.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:48] Arielle Popstar: on  the  other  hand  Kayaker,  this is  a non standard  release&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:48] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: I just out  grid.kitely.com:8002 in the map.  It says it found it.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:49] Arielle Popstar: it  finds  Selby  but  does  it  name it?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:49] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I just logged into OSGrid directly in another window, when I paste http://grid.kitely.com:8002/ into the map it still says &amp;quot;No regions found with that name&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:49] Arielle Popstar: or  also  unknown?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:49] OtakuMegane Desu: Just &amp;#039;Unknown&amp;#039; when I tried it&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:49] Arielle Popstar: try  this   Kay grid.kitely.com:8002&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:50] Arielle Popstar: without  http://&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:50] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: no name -- will test it&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:50] Bill.Blight @grid.opensim.life:8002: Gotta run, another meeting ... TTFN&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:50] Andrew Hellershanks: ok, tc Bill.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:50] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Can&amp;#039;t go -- Not allowed to visit&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:50] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: bye&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:51] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I tried all combinations with the http, grid / on the end.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:51] Arielle Popstar: now   i  get the  name&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:51] Arielle Popstar: inspiration island&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:51] George Equus: Just searched Kitely, got it on the map&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:51] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: AHAH! It works from here, but not from Wright Plaza!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:51] Andrew Hellershanks: As do I, Arielle.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:52] Arielle Popstar: did  you  delete  old  HG  links  in console  Ubit?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:52] George Equus: I&amp;#039;ll test jumping around a bit...   brb  If succeed&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:52] Andrew Hellershanks: There was some changes affecting HG TP&amp;#039;s made to the grid code. I don&amp;#039;t remember the details. Perhaps Ubit does. Could be a compatibility issue as Kitely is running 0.8&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:53] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: What is Rev Paela OpenSim 4.0.1 Dev that is running here????&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:53] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: I will try going to Kitely as return (I came from there)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:53] Arielle Popstar: non  standard  release  i was mentioning&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:54] Ubit Umarov: old hg links aren&amp;#039;t that good..  but don&amp;#039;t remember if i did deleted them or not&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:54] Andrew Hellershanks: I just tried to check the map for another grid running 0.8.2 and the region has no name.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:54] Ubit Umarov: btw this region is not on our code&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:54] Arielle Popstar: i was meaning  within the last  5  minutes  Ubit&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:54] Arielle Popstar: so i guess not&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:54] Ubit Umarov: mo idea what changes does it have&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:54] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Wright Plaza is running 0.9.1.0 Dev&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:55] Arielle Popstar: wright plaza  is  too heavy  for  some&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:55] Map Space Locator: DynamicTextureModule: Error preparing image using URL http://quickmap.osgrid.org/quickmap.php?resolution=8&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:55] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: And from there I cannot find Kitely&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:56] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: From here my OSGrid native avatar could find Kitely&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:56] Arielle Popstar: sounds  like  bad  hg  links  then&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:56] Arielle Popstar: an osgrid  admin  would  have to  delete them&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:57] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: I got to Kitely with Home button in Firestorm&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:57] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: They have a meeting at this time every Saturday?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:58] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Yes Selby but that is where you CAME FROM! People that start here cannot get to Kitely (or anyplace else I have tried)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:58] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I just went to Sandbox 12 which is on 0.9.1 and cannot find Kitely their either.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:58] Andrew Hellershanks: Try going to another grid that is running 0.9&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:59] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Is there a separate mantis for OSGrid specific issues?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:59] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: grid.xmirlorg:8002:Sandbox&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:59] George Equus: Jumped around on at least a dozen grids with absolutely np   unusually smooth actually.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:59] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: grid.xmir.org:8002:Sandbox&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:59] George Equus: some on very old versions of code&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[11:59] Ubit Umarov: Pinging prod.kitely.com [50.18.48.24] with 32 bytes of data:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Request timed out.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:00] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: Sandbox is on 0.9.1&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:00] George Equus: And discovered that this is not LBSA   lol  went there b4 came here...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:00] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I get not found for grid.xmirlorg:8002:Sandbox while standing in an OSGrid 0.9.1 region in my OSGrid avatar.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:00] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: try hte next address&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:00] Ubit Umarov: i just found it here&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:01] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: there is a dot missing in the one you used&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:01] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: grid.xmir.org:8002:Sandbox&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:01] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Yes, but here is not running 0.9.1&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:01] Ubit Umarov: and on my test region&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:01] Andrew Hellershanks: We don&amp;#039;t know what version of code is running here&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:01] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Oh, with the correct address I can find grid.xmir.org:8002:Sandbox&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:02] Ubit Umarov: and on linux test region&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:02] Leighton.Marjoram @grid.opensim.life:8002: I have to head off bye for now and see you next week.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:02] Ubit Umarov: for somereason kitely is npt responding&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:02] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: bye&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:02] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: At any rate, I have been having trouble HGing since the 0.9.1 changeover on OSGrid. Just reporting that.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:02] Arielle Popstar: tc Leighton&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:03] Arielle Popstar: with  osgrid  though  it  could  be  their  network  config  and  not  an  opensim issue&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:03] Ubit Umarov: 10:02:56 - [HYPERGRID LINKER]: Link to http://grid.kitely.com:8002/ , in &amp;lt;6640,0&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;10:02:56 - [GATEKEEPER SERVICE CONNECTOR]: Linking to http://grid.kitely.com:8002/&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;10:02:56 - [HYPERGRID LINKER]: Unable to link region&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:03] Ubit Umarov: it was working fine.. so guess some bad internet weather&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:03] Arielle Popstar: kitely  has  on demand  regions  so they  may  not  be  avaialble unless  someone already there&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:04] Ubit Umarov: main hg region should be up :p&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:04] George Equus: Kayaker, you must have some local issue?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:04] Arielle Popstar: if  it  defaults  to it&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:04] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: How come it works in this region and not in Wright Plaza?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:05] Arielle Popstar: is  inspiration  island  the  main region?&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:05] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: (btw, I am trying to get to the always-up Kitely Welcome region, so it is not an on-demand issue)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:05] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Normally if the Kitely on demand region is not running you get a message to that effect and go to a  transfer station&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:05] Ubit Umarov: i can&amp;#039;t reach kitely from my test regions either&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:05] Arielle Popstar: yes  but  is  it pingable  if it isnt  up?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:06] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: The Kitely welcome region is up -- I just went there&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:06] George Equus: Similarly, I often have trouble getting home directly from HG  but always succed if I first land on other regions here on osg and then try to get home..&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:06] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: differences in DNS setup between regions?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:07] Ubit Umarov: wlel i don&amp;#039;t know.. there where no recent code changes and hg to kitely was worming fine&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:07] Ubit Umarov: and working&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:07] Ubit Umarov: so guess a temp glitch&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:07] George Equus: No idea...  just the way it&amp;#039;s always been for me,  Some regions simply do not connect to mine, others do&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:08] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Ubir came to Kitely last Friday&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:08] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Ubit&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:08] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: if you go to Wright, will it resolve www.kitely.com through the built in web browser?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:08] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: I just tried to complete a TP to Kitely from here, landed on Inspiration Island instead of the Welcom Region!???&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:08] Ubit Umarov: yeap.. mb kitely gatekeeper needs a kick&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:08] Ubit Umarov: no idea&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:09] Ubit Umarov: internet weather is so strange this days&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:09] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: Kitely installed new something this morning&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:10] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: O.o&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:10] George Equus: When searching for http://grid.kitely.com:8002  I find two:  http://grid.kitely.com:8002/i   and / inspiration island&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:10] Simulator Version v0.5 shouts: Rev Paela OpenSim 4.0.1 Dev       (Unix/Mono)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:10] Arielle Popstar: changed  the  default  HG  region&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:10] Map Space Locator: DynamicTextureModule: Error preparing image using URL http://quickmap.osgrid.org/quickmap.php?resolution=8&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:10] Arielle Popstar: maybe&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:10] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Made it to Kitely Welcome on a second jump. Not sure who to report this bug to.... I&amp;#039;ll try Kitely and OSgrid Dave...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:11] Ubit Umarov: well now 2 regions where found here&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:11] Arielle Popstar: what  about to  Metro?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:11] Arielle Popstar: they still on  .8.2  i think&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:12] Ubit Umarov: or 0.8.3 :p&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:12] George Equus: HG has always been bit flaky, sometimes it just works, sometimes not at all&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:12] Selby.Evans @grid.kitely.com:8002: must go now -- bye all&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:12] Gavin.Hird @grid.xmir.org:8002: bye&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:12] Ubit Umarov: cya&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:12] George Equus: bye&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:13] George Equus: Logo here with the slogan should be on the regular LBSA, it&amp;#039;s cool&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:14] Arielle Popstar: you  typing  George?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:15] Ubit Umarov: ok this is a test for future lbsa it seems&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:15] Ubit Umarov: oops it is named Project Secret.. possible that means secret ??&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:15] George Equus: Project secret&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:15] Arielle Popstar: have  to ask  Paela&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:16] George Equus: don&amp;#039;t think so  :)  is paela giving the name maybe&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:16] Unknown.UserUPUUI @thekaz.ddns.net:8002: take care uBit &amp;amp; Kayaker :_)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:16] Ubit Umarov: cya&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:16] Kayaker.Magic @grid.kitely.com:8002: Goodby Unknown User.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:16] Unknown.UserUPUUI @thekaz.ddns.net:8002: :_)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:16] George Equus: jay&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:17] Andrew Hellershanks: and just like that we are down to just the four of us.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:18] George Equus: ppl left in a hurry  :)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:19] George Equus: I&amp;#039;m off too, see if I can jump home directly from here  :)  Thanks Andrew, was bit unusual today&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:20] Andrew Hellershanks: Yes, it was. Thanks for dropping in George.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:20] George Equus: adn Bye&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[12:20] Andrew Hellershanks: That wraps up the meeting for today.&lt;br /&gt;
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